May 22 2009
If it works, how can it be wrong?
I want to make two points about Dick Cheney’s views on waterboarding. Here’s what he said in his speech to the American Enterprise Institute in Washington, D.C., yesterday.
In top secret meetings about enhanced interrogations, I made my own beliefs clear. I was and remain a strong proponent of our enhanced interrogation program. The interrogations were used on hardened terrorists after other efforts failed. They were legal, essential, justified, successful, and the right thing to do. The intelligence officers who questioned the terrorists can be proud of their work and proud of the results, because they prevented the violent death of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands, of innocent people.
That’s a bold claim, and one that — conveniently — may never be provable. He can continue to point to real or fictitious classified documents that may or may not back up what he’s saying, and those documents cannot be unclassified for security reasons. He can even go through the motions of asking for such documents to be released, knowing full well that they won’t be.
Of course, he could have released such documents when he was in power, but didn’t. Applying Occam’s razor, he’s lying.
It amazes me that we’re even having this discussion about the efficacy of torture. It’s beyond the point. The point is, you don’t get to do things that are unconstitutional. Police might have a much easier time with the war on drugs if they could just randomly enter people’s houses and search for contraband, but that pesky constitution says they can’t. Even if I could prove that such a policy would be efficacious, it’s not going to happen.
But let’s take Cheney’s logic to the next few steps:
- If our enhanced interrogation techniques, which included waterboarding, are legal, essential, justified and successful, does that mean all methods of torture are thus? If you’ve waterboarded a guy 180 times in one month and he hasn’t talked, would it be okay to waterboard his young child in front of him? Why or why not? Would it be okay to switch to flaying?
- If this works so well, why limit it to a few dozen suspects in Cuba? How about letting police departments all over the U.S. start using these techniques on anyone suspected of any crime? They’re legal and they work, after all.
I can’t believe this stuff even needs to be discussed in this country. Grabbing people and secreting them away to hidden dungeons where they’re tortured into confessing their crimes — that’s what we were told happened in the police state of the former Soviet Union. The United States was supposed to be fighting that sort of thing.
“Forgetting Sarah Marshall” is a funny film. At least I think it is. I only managed to get about 45 minutes into it before my Blu-ray player sounded like it was grinding corn for the day’s tortillas.
Quick — can you spot my left anterior descending artery in the first image? No? That’s because it was nearly completely blocked at the time. After doctors inserted a couple of tiny plastic/metal mesh thingys, it popped open as shown in the second image.
“Guilt is a Useless Emotion” is a track off
…but that’s not really the point of this. I don’t want to gloat, after all. Although, I’ve got to say, I’ve been walking around with a spring in my step this week. And you can get these neat hats at
Is it just my imagination, or are the Republicans deathly afraid of the status quo?
Sounds almost naughty. “Curious about foreclosed properties?” Click here for discrete information you can read in the privacy of your own home/apartment/ cardboard box.
Substantively, the first McCain-Obama debate was a wash. Anti-intellectual conservatives can bitch and moan about how Obama sounded like he was full of “book learnin’” while McCain had experience — but that’s only going to fly for the faithful. Similarly, Obama just hasn’t been to the places or had the experiences McCain has had. Even if you feel McCain has drawn the wrong conclusion from those experiences, he still had them. Only partisans won’t admit that.
The John McCain “suspend your campaign in order to win” strategy is going on right as this is being typed, so there are plenty of theories as to what’s really going on.
Check out the first headline under the “Also on MSN” header to the right. I won’t belabor the same point I made a few months ago about the media’s inability to handle any of the serious matters that concern the country in this election year.